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December 2, 2022


Ilana Gershon

Who Makes Decisions At Work

A lot of people who’ve quit jobs lately thought they were sticking it to the man. But their employers - and coworkers - apparently didn’t realize. This week, anthropologist Ilana Gershon on power in the workplace and what it means for democracy. Plus, a conversation with singer-songwriter Lucinda Williams.


November 25, 2022


Graham Reynolds

Replay: Rock Opera and Other Border Crossings

Graham Reynolds has composed for film, ballet, theater. He also leads a band that puts on great live concerts. And he wrote a rock opera about Pancho Villa. This week, we talk about all that with Graham. Plus, poet Ross Gay, delighted.


November 18, 2022


Puppets of Bart Everson and Christy Paxson

Oscar Wilde on trial, then two puppets get married

Two performances: the trials of Oscar Wilde on stage, and a puppet wedding. And more.


November 11, 2022


Salil and Yousuf

Replay: Love and Citizenship in the Heartland

It was a summer day when Nancy and Kim found out they could get married. They both had other plans for lunch, so they waited till 3. Stories of love and citizenship, this week on Inner States.


November 4, 2022


Historian Emiliano Aguilar

Only (One) Murder in this Episode about Latinx Politics in East Chicago

Historian Emiliano Aguilar on Latinx politics in East Chicago, how political representation isn’t necessarily a panacea for historic discrimination, and why we should keep paying attention to local politics.


October 28, 2022


Monique Verdin and Tracing Our Mississippi in Columbus, Indiana

Replay: Two Rivers, One Watershed

Indiana doesn’t touch the Mississippi River, but it’s still bound up with it. This week, we talk with Monique Verdin, Liz Brownlee, and others, about those connections. Plus, a review of Ian Woollen’s Sister City.


October 21, 2022


Ross Gay

Ross Gay on Inciting Joy

Ross Gay’s new book of essays, Inciting Joy, comes out this week. On this episode, we talk about his new book, about masculinity and grief, teaching and survival, and how joy and sorrow are completely, inevitably, intertwined.

October 14, 2022


LaWaSo Ground, Columbus Indiana

Who to Remember and How (Updated)

A walk among memorials and public art pieces in the fall of 2021. We talk with creators, participants, and passers-by about the meaning of public art, about Native presence in a state named for Indians, about immigration, Christopher Columbus, Columbus, Indiana, who we choose to remember, and how.

October 7, 2022


Fafnir Adamites in their studio

Felt Thoughts, TaB, and more

Fiber artist Fafnir Adamites about textiles, repetitive processes, and making space for intergenerational trauma. The closing of a TaB. And producer Anna Grimes’ grandmother’s memory.

September 30, 2022


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How to Survive the Future Episodes 4 & 5

This week on Inner States, episodes 4 and 5 of How to Survive the Future, a podcast about today, from the perspective of tomorrow.

September 23, 2022


Alicia Kozma at the IU Cinema

Replay: Loving Movies Beyond All Reason

The work of women in film has been overlooked since the beginning of movies. Alicia Kozma, incoming director of the IU Cinema, is working to change that.

September 16, 2022


Artist Nate Powell

Comics and the Moral Arc of the Universe

Even after doing the March Trilogy with Congressman John Lewis, artist Nate Powell thought social progress was inevitable. Then came the 2016 election. His new book of graphic essays reckons with what that meant as a parent and citizen.

September 9, 2022


Alice and Henry Gray

Replay: Henry and Alice

Henry Gray has been alive for a century. This week, he reflects on the 70 years he had with his wife, Alice, on growing up in Indiana, and on getting old. And Kaity Radde visits the Bloomington Catholic Worker.

September 2, 2022


Julie Turnock and Maya Cade

Special Effects, Black Cinema, and a Touch of Nostalgia

Film scholar Julie Turnock explains how a style developed by 1970s auteurs has shaped special effects in today’s blockbusters. And Maya Cade, creator of the Black Film Archive, on how The Wiz helped get her through the pandemic.

August 26, 2022


Stephen Deusner

Replay: Southern Rock, Midwestern Soul

Music critic Stephen Deusner talks about the book he wrote about the Drive-By Truckers, the South, the masculinity of Jimmy Carter, and more. Plus, a review of a local band that made President Obama’s best-of list.

August 19, 2022


How to Survive the Future Ep3: McCormick's Creek State Park

How to Survive the Future Episode 3 & Keep Calm and Carillon

Two stories this week: A walk through McCormick’s Creek State Park in the spring of 2045 or so, and a mystery that takes place in a bell tower.

August 12, 2022


Inside the Bybee Stone Mill

Replay: Joyce Jeffries and the Cutters

Limestone work used to be quite dangerous. Joyce Jeffries remembers workers, including her grandfather, dying or getting injured. It’s gotten safer though. This week, Joyce, and others, on limestone.

August 5, 2022


Field in Letcher County, KY

The Prison They Didn't Build

There's a meadow in eastern Kentucky where people sometimes hunt mushrooms, get married, attend a music festival. Something that's not happening? There's no prison getting built. This week, Judah Schept tells us why that prison was a close call.

July 29, 2022


Monroe Anderson

Replay: Monroe Anderson on objectivity, Chicago's racial politics, and ink in your blood

When he was young, Monroe Anderson had a plan. He was going to be the next James Baldwin. Then he got a taste of journalism, and the ink was in his blood.

July 22, 2022


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How to Survive the Future Episodes 1 & 2

This week, the first two episodes of How to Survive the Future, a podcast about today, from the perspective of tomorrow. But first, a frog in a bedroom leads to a bit of climate panic.

July 15, 2022


Ileana Haberman

Queer Embroidery + Drive-Ins

This week on Inner States, we talk with artist Ileana Haberman about embroidery, queerness, and mental health. Plus, IU Cinema Director Alicia Kozma on drive-in movie theaters.

July 8, 2022


Detail from Be Holding, by Ross Gay

Being Beholden

Poet Ross Gay on witnessing, gratitude, reading very long poems out loud, and a particular layup from the 1980 NBA finals.

July 1, 2022


Sam Shoaf

Becoming a Participant in the Landscape

Sam’s day job involves removing invasive plants and restoring native ones. Fire is one of the ways he does that. He’s a lifelong hunter, too - that’s what got him into landscape restoration. This week, a walk in the woods with Sam Shoaf.

June 24, 2022


Diane Kondrat

Replay: Dreams of Regional Theatre

When Diane Kondrat was an aspiring actor, she didn't dream of a life in regional theater. But between working with prisoners, starting a theater company, and the teachers and collaborators she's met, it worked out pretty well.

June 17, 2022


Michael Martone

Fiction Without Narrative, Teaching Without Grades, Indiana Beyond Sugar Cream Pie

Writer and teacher Michael Martone on fiction without narrative, teaching without grades, and writing about Indiana beyond corn, basketball, and sugar cream pie.

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