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January 20, 2023


Michael Martone

Fiction Without Narrative, Teaching Without Grades, Indiana Beyond Sugar Cream Pie

Writer and teacher Michael Martone on fiction without narrative, teaching without grades, and writing about Indiana beyond corn, basketball, and sugar cream pie.


January 13, 2023


Artist Honey Hodges

If My Hands Could Look Like Hers

First, a conversation with artist Honey Hodges about collages, immigrating to the U.S., and the opportunity to care for someone who has always taken care of you. Then, naturalist Jim Eagleman reminds us why we should go outside in the winter, and at night.


January 6, 2023


Flinora Frazier (nee Meyers) meeting Langston Hughes

Censorship and Freedom

Three stories. One about the challenges of accessing books in prison. One about how overlooking a neighborhood’s history has affected the place. One about a comic book artist who has yet to experience writers’ block.


December 23, 2022


Novelist Jacinda Townsend

Mothering on Two Sides of the Atlantic

A conversation with novelist Jacinda Townsend about her new novel, which tackles the subject of motherhood from two perspectives on different sides of the world.


December 30, 2022


Kate Schneider

A Graphic Novel about the Medicalization of Death and Dying

The graphic novel Headland is about a woman in a hospital, the wilderness she visits in her mind, and the tortoise she meets there. It’s also about the medicalization of death and dying. This week, we talk with the author, Kate Schneider. Plus, Midwestern Movies, with Alicia Kozma.


December 16, 2022


Indiana Dunes looking east to Michigan City

Indiana's Oil and Gas Boom Still Echoes Today

Scholar and writer Ava Tomasula y Garcia tells the story of the Calumet Region, how the gas boom started with a bang, brought major industry and new racial dynamics, and why “the Rust Belt” is a bit of a misnomer.


December 9, 2022


People from Bloomington

People from Bloomington: A Short Story Collection from Indonesia (replay)

In 1980, the Indonesian fiction writer Budi Darma published a book of short stories called People from Bloomington. The English translation came out this month. This week on Inner States, translator Tiffany Tsao on Indonesian literature, Budi Darma, and Twitter.

December 2, 2022


Ilana Gershon

Who Makes Decisions At Work

A lot of people who’ve quit jobs lately thought they were sticking it to the man. But their employers - and coworkers - apparently didn’t realize. This week, anthropologist Ilana Gershon on power in the workplace and what it means for democracy. Plus, a conversation with singer-songwriter Lucinda Williams.

November 25, 2022


Graham Reynolds

Replay: Rock Opera and Other Border Crossings

Graham Reynolds has composed for film, ballet, theater. He also leads a band that puts on great live concerts. And he wrote a rock opera about Pancho Villa. This week, we talk about all that with Graham. Plus, poet Ross Gay, delighted.

November 18, 2022


Puppets of Bart Everson and Christy Paxson

Oscar Wilde on trial, then two puppets get married

Two performances: the trials of Oscar Wilde on stage, and a puppet wedding. And more.

November 11, 2022


Salil and Yousuf

Replay: Love and Citizenship in the Heartland

It was a summer day when Nancy and Kim found out they could get married. They both had other plans for lunch, so they waited till 3. Stories of love and citizenship, this week on Inner States.

November 4, 2022


Historian Emiliano Aguilar

Only (One) Murder in this Episode about Latinx Politics in East Chicago

Historian Emiliano Aguilar on Latinx politics in East Chicago, how political representation isn’t necessarily a panacea for historic discrimination, and why we should keep paying attention to local politics.

October 28, 2022


Monique Verdin and Tracing Our Mississippi in Columbus, Indiana

Replay: Two Rivers, One Watershed

Indiana doesn’t touch the Mississippi River, but it’s still bound up with it. This week, we talk with Monique Verdin, Liz Brownlee, and others, about those connections. Plus, a review of Ian Woollen’s Sister City.

October 21, 2022


Ross Gay

Ross Gay on Inciting Joy

Ross Gay’s new book of essays, Inciting Joy, comes out this week. On this episode, we talk about his new book, about masculinity and grief, teaching and survival, and how joy and sorrow are completely, inevitably, intertwined.

October 14, 2022


LaWaSo Ground, Columbus Indiana

Who to Remember and How (Updated)

A walk among memorials and public art pieces in the fall of 2021. We talk with creators, participants, and passers-by about the meaning of public art, about Native presence in a state named for Indians, about immigration, Christopher Columbus, Columbus, Indiana, who we choose to remember, and how.

October 7, 2022


Fafnir Adamites in their studio

Felt Thoughts, TaB, and more

Fiber artist Fafnir Adamites about textiles, repetitive processes, and making space for intergenerational trauma. The closing of a TaB. And producer Anna Grimes’ grandmother’s memory.

September 30, 2022


How to Survive the Future Ep4 Art

How to Survive the Future Episodes 4 & 5

This week on Inner States, episodes 4 and 5 of How to Survive the Future, a podcast about today, from the perspective of tomorrow.

September 23, 2022


Alicia Kozma at the IU Cinema

Replay: Loving Movies Beyond All Reason

The work of women in film has been overlooked since the beginning of movies. Alicia Kozma, incoming director of the IU Cinema, is working to change that.

September 16, 2022


Artist Nate Powell

Comics and the Moral Arc of the Universe

Even after doing the March Trilogy with Congressman John Lewis, artist Nate Powell thought social progress was inevitable. Then came the 2016 election. His new book of graphic essays reckons with what that meant as a parent and citizen.

September 9, 2022


Alice and Henry Gray

Replay: Henry and Alice

Henry Gray has been alive for a century. This week, he reflects on the 70 years he had with his wife, Alice, on growing up in Indiana, and on getting old. And Kaity Radde visits the Bloomington Catholic Worker.

September 2, 2022


Julie Turnock and Maya Cade

Special Effects, Black Cinema, and a Touch of Nostalgia

Film scholar Julie Turnock explains how a style developed by 1970s auteurs has shaped special effects in today’s blockbusters. And Maya Cade, creator of the Black Film Archive, on how The Wiz helped get her through the pandemic.

August 26, 2022


Stephen Deusner

Replay: Southern Rock, Midwestern Soul

Music critic Stephen Deusner talks about the book he wrote about the Drive-By Truckers, the South, the masculinity of Jimmy Carter, and more. Plus, a review of a local band that made President Obama’s best-of list.

August 19, 2022


How to Survive the Future Ep3: McCormick's Creek State Park

How to Survive the Future Episode 3 & Keep Calm and Carillon

Two stories this week: A walk through McCormick’s Creek State Park in the spring of 2045 or so, and a mystery that takes place in a bell tower.

August 12, 2022


Inside the Bybee Stone Mill

Replay: Joyce Jeffries and the Cutters

Limestone work used to be quite dangerous. Joyce Jeffries remembers workers, including her grandfather, dying or getting injured. It’s gotten safer though. This week, Joyce, and others, on limestone.

August 5, 2022


Field in Letcher County, KY

The Prison They Didn't Build

There's a meadow in eastern Kentucky where people sometimes hunt mushrooms, get married, attend a music festival. Something that's not happening? There's no prison getting built. This week, Judah Schept tells us why that prison was a close call.

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