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March 17, 2023


Susan Neiman

Left is Not Woke with Susan Neiman

Philosopher Susan Neiman on why the left should be wary of wokeness, how Germany’s reckoning with its past has become more complicated, and why the differences between two European philosophers - Immanuel Kant and Michel Foucault – matter for politics today.


March 10, 2023


Todd Burkhardt Mask Inside Outside

Veterans Doing Art

Todd Burkhardt is a veteran, and he’s started asking other veterans to do needle felting with him. And drawing. And making masks. This week, what happens when vets do art.


March 3, 2023


Sam Shoaf

Replay: Becoming a Participant in the Landscape

Sam’s day job involves removing invasive plants and restoring native ones. Fire is one of the ways he does that. He’s a lifelong hunter, too - that’s what got him into landscape restoration. This week, a walk in the woods with Sam Shoaf.


February 28, 2023


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February 24, 2023


Micol Seigel

Family Policing

We think of the foster care system as being about care. Micol Seigel says within the system people do care for each other. But it’s primarily about policing.


February 17, 2023


Cassette tape


It’s a mixtape! Five songs (okay, stories), by five different producers. Three are about being behind the scenes. One’s about your dad retiring. And an investigation into love.


February 10, 2023


Sycamore Leaves

Jack and Seigen

Jack was studying vocal performance when he met Seigen at the local Zen center. They became good friends. They took walks, stopping to look at every tree. Then Seigen asked Jack to drive him to an execution.

February 2, 2023


Abra Bush

The 21st-Century Conservatory Needs to Challenge Itself

Abra Bush, the new dean of the Jacobs School of Music, says conservatories are going to have to go beyond the Western canon to stay relevant to up-and-coming musicians in the twenty-first century.

January 27, 2023


Comic Books and Billboard Charts, Collecting and Ranking

Malcolm Mobutu Smith on comic books, collecting, and the exhibit he just put together based on that collection. Then, Bill Carroll uses the quantitative skills he developed as a chemist to analyze the billboard charts of the 1960s and 70s.

January 20, 2023


Michael Martone

Fiction Without Narrative, Teaching Without Grades, Indiana Beyond Sugar Cream Pie

Writer and teacher Michael Martone on fiction without narrative, teaching without grades, and writing about Indiana beyond corn, basketball, and sugar cream pie.

January 13, 2023


Artist Honey Hodges

If My Hands Could Look Like Hers

First, a conversation with artist Honey Hodges about collages, immigrating to the U.S., and the opportunity to care for someone who has always taken care of you. Then, naturalist Jim Eagleman reminds us why we should go outside in the winter, and at night.

January 6, 2023


Flinora Frazier (nee Meyers) meeting Langston Hughes

Censorship and Freedom

Three stories. One about the challenges of accessing books in prison. One about how overlooking a neighborhood’s history has affected the place. One about a comic book artist who has yet to experience writers’ block.

December 23, 2022


Novelist Jacinda Townsend

Mothering on Two Sides of the Atlantic

A conversation with novelist Jacinda Townsend about her new novel, which tackles the subject of motherhood from two perspectives on different sides of the world.

December 30, 2022


Kate Schneider

A Graphic Novel about the Medicalization of Death and Dying

The graphic novel Headland is about a woman in a hospital, the wilderness she visits in her mind, and the tortoise she meets there. It’s also about the medicalization of death and dying. This week, we talk with the author, Kate Schneider. Plus, Midwestern Movies, with Alicia Kozma.

December 16, 2022


Indiana Dunes looking east to Michigan City

Indiana's Oil and Gas Boom Still Echoes Today

Scholar and writer Ava Tomasula y Garcia tells the story of the Calumet Region, how the gas boom started with a bang, brought major industry and new racial dynamics, and why “the Rust Belt” is a bit of a misnomer.

December 9, 2022


People from Bloomington

People from Bloomington: A Short Story Collection from Indonesia (replay)

In 1980, the Indonesian fiction writer Budi Darma published a book of short stories called People from Bloomington. The English translation came out this month. This week on Inner States, translator Tiffany Tsao on Indonesian literature, Budi Darma, and Twitter.

December 2, 2022


Ilana Gershon

Who Makes Decisions At Work

A lot of people who’ve quit jobs lately thought they were sticking it to the man. But their employers - and coworkers - apparently didn’t realize. This week, anthropologist Ilana Gershon on power in the workplace and what it means for democracy. Plus, a conversation with singer-songwriter Lucinda Williams.

November 25, 2022


Graham Reynolds

Replay: Rock Opera and Other Border Crossings

Graham Reynolds has composed for film, ballet, theater. He also leads a band that puts on great live concerts. And he wrote a rock opera about Pancho Villa. This week, we talk about all that with Graham. Plus, poet Ross Gay, delighted.

November 18, 2022


Puppets of Bart Everson and Christy Paxson

Oscar Wilde on trial, then two puppets get married

Two performances: the trials of Oscar Wilde on stage, and a puppet wedding. And more.

November 11, 2022


Salil and Yousuf

Replay: Love and Citizenship in the Heartland

It was a summer day when Nancy and Kim found out they could get married. They both had other plans for lunch, so they waited till 3. Stories of love and citizenship, this week on Inner States.

November 4, 2022


Historian Emiliano Aguilar

Only (One) Murder in this Episode about Latinx Politics in East Chicago

Historian Emiliano Aguilar on Latinx politics in East Chicago, how political representation isn’t necessarily a panacea for historic discrimination, and why we should keep paying attention to local politics.

October 28, 2022


Monique Verdin and Tracing Our Mississippi in Columbus, Indiana

Replay: Two Rivers, One Watershed

Indiana doesn’t touch the Mississippi River, but it’s still bound up with it. This week, we talk with Monique Verdin, Liz Brownlee, and others, about those connections. Plus, a review of Ian Woollen’s Sister City.

October 21, 2022


Ross Gay

Ross Gay on Inciting Joy

Ross Gay’s new book of essays, Inciting Joy, comes out this week. On this episode, we talk about his new book, about masculinity and grief, teaching and survival, and how joy and sorrow are completely, inevitably, intertwined.

October 14, 2022


LaWaSo Ground, Columbus Indiana

Who to Remember and How (Updated)

A walk among memorials and public art pieces in the fall of 2021. We talk with creators, participants, and passers-by about the meaning of public art, about Native presence in a state named for Indians, about immigration, Christopher Columbus, Columbus, Indiana, who we choose to remember, and how.

October 7, 2022


Fafnir Adamites in their studio

Felt Thoughts, TaB, and more

Fiber artist Fafnir Adamites about textiles, repetitive processes, and making space for intergenerational trauma. The closing of a TaB. And producer Anna Grimes’ grandmother’s memory.

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