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Ask The Mayor: Terre Haute's Sakbun on DEI bill, ACLU lawsuit, accessible playground

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Terre Haute Mayor Brandon Sakbun

Terre Haute Mayor Brandon Sakbun (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

The mayor talks about his trips to the statehouse lobbying for city budgets, DEI legislation, funding amenities, ACLU lawsuit with ISU, and fundraising for a new accessible park.

On this week’s installment of Ask The Mayor, Terre Haute Mayor Brandon Sakbun addresses these issues and more Tuesday at city hall. Listen to the full conversation with Indiana Newsdesk anchor Joe Hren by clicking on the play button above, or read some of the questions and answers below. A portion of this segment airs 6:45 and 8:45 a.m. Wednesday on WFIU.

This conversation has been edited for clarity and conciseness.

Hren: The Indiana Senate approved a bill to ban Diversity Equity Inclusion initiatives and state government public schools, as mayor of Terre Haute, how do you react to that bill?

Sakbun: Look how I perceive diversity, equity, inclusion is really through how we market and advertise, what positions we have available with the city, what policies, what projects we're doing. To me, being inclusive is ADA sidewalks and cross ramps. Diversity is welcoming folks from all cultures and backgrounds to our city and really saying, Hey, if you move here, if you live here, if you work here, come on in. It's Terre Haute, Indiana.

I think that it's become a very politicized conversation, and I don't think that anyone truthfully is really understanding the true nature of diversity, equity and inclusion, right? If you look at our parks projects, it is not equality. And you know, all 20 of our parks don't receive the same dollar investment. It's equitable in some neighborhoods that have been hit hardest because of the pandemic and inflation, they're hurting a little bit, so we got to give them a reason to get outside and engage in public health style activities. And so I really think it's been a misconstrued conversation.

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The ACLU of Indiana sued Indiana State University over its refusal to host the 2025 Pride Fest on campus.
The ACLU of Indiana sued Indiana State University over its refusal to host the 2025 Pride Fest on campus. (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

Hren: The ACLU filed a lawsuit against Indiana State University alleging the university worked with the mayor's office to move Pride Fest 2025 to a city park instead of the ISU campus where the event was held, I think in 2023 2024. What's your comment with this lawsuit?

Sakbun: The city hosts a number of cultural events and activities. Joe, specifically to the lawsuit, it's two individual or two outside organizations that are involved in this lawsuit, and while we are listed, we are not one of those two organizations, so we cannot comment on ongoing litigation.

Hren: The Pride Center says it wasn't consulted during the discussion. So if that's accurate, didn't the mayor's office want to include the Pride Center in that discussion with ISU?

Sakbun: Here's how I approach the mayor's office in the city, we try to include all groups, all conversations, just like when we recruit a business, you have discussions with education, discussions with workforce development, discussions in housing and even cultural events. It's always important to hear all voices, all concerns. And there are Hoosiers who are against these events, and of course, we listen to them as well. I mean, you have to be empathetic as a leader, and you have to let all voices be heard.

Hren: Do you think ISU, the mayor's office, acted ethically during this process?

Sakbun: I won't comment on the on the process, as it's an ongoing investigation.

The former jail is being demolished next to city hall.
Sakbun says the demolition of the downtown jail will allow the county to add accessible parking and an extension of a road. (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

Hren: One of the things I've always learned about this show talking to mayors is how much the mayors love adding amenities as well to their cities. How hard is it as mayor now, especially with all the talks of budget cuts?

Sakun: Amenities is an interesting term, right? And I always say it's not amenities, it's quality alike. People want parks. People want good schools, right? We're debating needs verses wants right now. And I truthfully believe, if you look at the state of Indiana, if you look at where Hoosiers and folks from outside the Hoosier State moved to, it's two communities that invest in themselves. It's two communities that are investing in sidewalks, ensuring their streets or to the right standard, ensuring that neighborhood parks are invested in and ensuring that their schools are operating at a high level.

So I think it's really important to get away from the academic term of amenities, and that's something I'm very, very pointed and specific in saying, hey, look, you know, if the everyday person is okay with fewer services, fewer parks, fewer police and fire. That's a hard conversation to have.

We got to do a better job of showing all the great work that we are doing. We're not fraudulent and wasteful organizations. And I really appreciate the governor. I mean, he even said local governments I think are more efficient than the state. What a great comment for him to say.

Terre Haute YMCA at Fairbanks Park
Terre Haute YMCA at Fairbanks Park, August 2024. (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

Hren: A month ago, you said, there's big news coming. And I believe you were talking about the funds to help renovate the YMCA?

Sakbun: It's a little bit of an archaic building. So we are gonna do what's called capital stacking. So we've got some foundation investments, the Wabash Valley Community Foundation and the Lilly Foundation, they are bringing $7 million to the table. The city of Terre Haute is committing $2 million over four years through our gaming tax revenue. And now the YMCA is going to kick off the fundraising campaign to renovate the YMCA, add some features, address the courts, address the pool.

If you look at the YMCA, is this true community recreational centers ours? Is it in the heart of the city, right by West Terre Haute, right by downtown, you can easily access it from Northern and Southern Vigo County. We want to make that our cornerstone of our riverfront revitalization, and I'm happy we made it this far.

Wabash Ave. downtown Terre Haute
Wabash Ave. downtown Terre Haute Tuesday afternoon. (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

Hren: I see the Youth Council of Terre Haute is excited to launch it's fundraising campaign to create an accessible playground at city owned Coy Park?

Sakbun: It's in partnership with the IHCDA, and it's an accessible playground and a neighborhood that hasn't seen some investments in a while and has a number of families. So what we believe in is if we give a chance for students to do something remarkable, we'll support them. We'll see how it goes. If they raise $35,000, the state puts in $35,000 - so they're going to start a fundraising campaign, and we wish them the best. They'll hit the media circuit. They'll meet with businesses. It's a true student run organization.

Also, my wife and I have the Bundles of Hope Baby Supply Drive. It's a basically baby shower for the families here in Terre Haute. The faith based community has been so great in supporting us. A number of businesses have supported this effort. So Vigo county residents can come drive through the parking lot and write out what they need and get some supplies for newborns. Our drop off sites do close Thursday, but if they do have items they want to donate, bring them to City Hall by Friday, and the distribution is Saturday, 10 a.m. to Noon.

The fundraising campaign will offer the community a unique opportunity to support the Mayor’s Youth Council’s project of creating an accessible playground space in the city-owned Coy Park.
The fundraising campaign will support the Mayor’s Youth Council’s project of creating an accessible playground space in the city-owned Coy Park. (City of Terre Haute)

Hren: State of the City address coming?

Sakbun: Next Friday morning, it'll be streamed live on YouTube from the convention center if you want to watch. And it's going to be a fun one. We are so thankful the state of Indiana has worked with us on the community crossing grant program. We're paving more streets. We're investing into ourselves, thankfully. I'll preview some of our casino gaming tax revenue projects, and I'll also show how we cleaned up our financials and consolidated some things to deliver efficient services to the people of Terre Haute. Of course, I'll hit our parks and recreation and highlight all the businesses that are expanding and coming to the city of Terre Haute.

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