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Ask The Mayor: Lienhoop on train derailment, fiber installation, airport land use

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Columbus Mayor Jim Lienhoop

Columbus Mayor Jim Lienhoop (Zoom)

Columbus first responders train for emergencies like the train derailment in Ohio. No reports of disruptions to residents as crews install fiber for broadband access. And the mayor is preparing for his final State of the City Address.

On this week’s installment of Ask The Mayor, Columbus Mayor Jim Lienhoop addresses these issues and more. Listen to the full conversation with Indiana Newsdesk anchor Joe Hren by clicking on the play button above, or read some of the questions and answers below. A portion of this segment airs 6:45 and 8:45 a.m. Wednesday on WFIU.

This conversation has been edited for clarity and conciseness.

Hren: After the train derailment in Ohio and threat of toxic waste, I think about trains through so many Indiana communities including here in Columbus. I saw an online news headline ‘Is your town next? It’s complicated.' Is this something first responders are trained for?

Lienhoop: I will start off by saying that we train for events such as what happened, we have a pretty active first responder group, not only managed through the Columbus Fire Department, but our EMS service and the relationships that we have with surrounding counties. It's kind of unusual in that the volume, what you can't train for is mass. I mean, it's easy to be overwhelmed. Because at the end of the day, we've got only so many first responders. And that's a bit of a challenge.

We've always got the opportunity to have an overwhelming event, whether it's a flood, or a fire, or I guess we could have an earthquake. And candidly, that kind of spill could happen with a truck. You could have an airplane fall out of the sky. Hopefully, when if it were to happen, it does so on volume that we can we can manage.

About three dozen train cars derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, on Feb 3. — a little less than a third of them were carrying hazardous material.
About three dozen train cars derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, on Feb 3. — a little less than a third of them were carrying hazardous material. (The U.S. EPA)

Hren: I did read a report a couple months ago about regulators testing for toxic ‘forever chemicals’ in Columbus - what precipitated that and have results come back?

Lienhoop: I think sometimes they're referred to as PFAS. And they relate to slickness. If you think about Teflon, I don't want to get trouble here with DuPont, but the ability to make surfaces that are slippery has been a big advantage to us in our industrial capacities, but it also carries the risk of some kind of chemical that works its way into the water system, because it doesn't really last forever, but it might as well, but it lasts long enough that it just doesn't degrade.

And so we've been asked to test for that stuff. Right now, as I understand it, the EPA has not identified any limits. They don't tell you, you can have so many parts per billion in your water or you can't. It's not a identified substance. But we've begun to test just to sort of see if there's anything out there. And maybe perhaps from that we develop some regulations. And I've not heard back on how we're doing with them.

Hren: Meridiam is installing fiber for high-speed internet throughout municipalities - how is the installation going there? Some Bloomington residents have reported tore up lawns, broken sewer lines as installation has started?

Lienhoop: We've not received any reports of anything broken. There's obviously some holes being dug in the ground. But no, no broken sewer lines, no disconnected gas lines or anything like that. But yeah, their expectation is to begin to sign up customers, I want to stay in the second quarter of this year. So, we're excited about that. 

Hren: The city is also designating COVID relief funds to help low income residents connect to the new broadband infrastructure.

Lienhoop: That's a certain amount that was set aside by our city council. I've drawn a blank on how many hundreds of thousands that was, but we'll parse that out based upon income grant guidelines, that will be consistent with what's in the COVID law. 

Applicants will have a internet provider. And those people will be all over the income requirements and the filing requirements. And, they'll make sure that it happens.

Columbus Riverfront proposed design
Columbus Riverfront proposed design (Courtesy photo)

Hren: The Columbus Redevelopment Commission is proposing a property swap in the hopes of preparing some riverfront land for future development. We haven’t talked about that project in a while - what’s new?

Lienhoop: The property swap was with the Louisville and Indiana Railroad. There's a spur line of railway if you will, that goes by the pump house and then sort of parallels First Street for a while and runs out towards the small industrial complex. And you might think that the property lines along that spur line would sort of mirror the arc of the tracks and maintain that curve, but they don't.

We've got somebody interested in some of the ground down there. But they've asked us to sort of clean up the property lines. And so what we wanted to do was to swap some of the ground that they own and give that to us.  And that really will provide, hopefully another development in that area.

That will be an enhancement to the riverfront project that we've got, which is designed to clean up that section of the railroad, what we call the land between the bridges between the Second Street Bridge, the Stewart bridge, and the Third Street Bridge. We want to take the dam out or stabilize the banks on either side, protect a former landfill that was on the western side of the river, and stop some erosion that is occurring on the east side.

And then hopefully maintain the water level that we enjoy upstream at Melrose Park. We continue to have conversations right now with the Environmental Protection Agency and the Army Corps of Engineers.

Columbus Riverfront
Columbus Riverfront (Joe Hren, WFIU/WTIU News)

Hren: And do we get a quick preview of your State of the City Address Monday?

Lienhoop: I guess it's still a work in progress. So people picked up pretty quickly that this will be your last one, Jim, you know, and yeah, I got 10 more months to go. But yes, this will be the last state of the city. And so what we intend to do is spend just a little bit of time reflecting on where we've come, what we've been able to do over the last, well, not quite yet, eight years. And candidly, we've accomplished a lot. And we did a good portion of it with a pandemic.

Then we'll provide an update on Nexus Park. I mean, once people see the steel, I mean, this thing is going to be really big. We know that there is a mental health initiative, that's coming forward, funded by the state of Indiana, and we want to be positioned to participate in that. And so there'll be a variety of things to talk about in terms of what comes next.

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