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Ask The Mayor: Bloomington's Hamilton on Sarah Dye venture, mayoral race

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Bloomington Mayor John Hamilton

Bloomington Mayor John Hamilton on Tuesday's Zoom interview. (Zoom)

Hamilton says the city's cooling stations are open, state and federal officials are not doing enough to prevent gun violence, a new project identifies lead in water lines, and gives an annexation update.

In this week’s installment of Ask The Mayor, Bloomington Mayor John Hamilton addresses these issues and more during an interview Tuesday at City Hall. Listen to the full conversation with Indiana Newsdesk anchor Joe Hren by clicking on the play button above, or read some of the questions and answers below. A portion of this segment airs 6:45 and 8:45 a.m. Wednesday on WFIU. Here are some highlights.

This conversation has been edited for clarity and conciseness.

Hren: Let's talk about gun control legislation. There's bipartisan agreement, Senator Young supporting some of it. How safe are Monroe County Schools and how much interaction is there with schools and the police?

Hamilton: In Indiana, we lack gun control laws, and they're actually going to be made looser in a few weeks. Basically, from my perspective, very ill advised view of not thinking about guns as a health issue, public health issue. And indeed, we have incredibly punitive laws against local officials, like myself or our city council about stopping us from doing what many of us would think are very sensible things to help protect our public.

I don't want to live in a siege mentality or a fortress state, whether it's in our city hall or in our public schools. I do think we need to focus on this as a public health issue and how to keep everybody safe.

I can't give you a between zero and 100 how safe are Monroe County Schools. I mean, they're very safe. We know, we all are living in a community that's quite safe, which does not mean that tomorrow or in one week, or in a year, something terrible could happen.

Hren: Are state and federal officials doing what they can to give you as mayor safe gun use?

Hamilton: No, not enough. I think in fact, they're not doing nearly enough to address some of these issues that are very clear about guns. We have too many guns, it's too easy to get a gun too many people who shouldn't have a gun have them their guns that are too many different places. There is no reasons to have protections from my perspective to not allow, for example, a city hall or a city council meeting to say we don't want weapons in here. Private employers are allowed to set rules in their places of employment, but public and public sector should be allowed to do the same.

Hren: Sarah dye is back in the news. She's selling coffee. Schooner Creek farms doesn't have a contract to sell at the city farmers market but is listed as a vendor, prompting Black Lives Matter Bloomington in a social media post today blaming the city and Mayor to fail to act because of her ties to white supremacy groups. Do you have a response?

Hamilton: I don't want to give more oxygen to a hateful and atrocious kind of marketing effort that does seem to emphasize white supremacy. I think that's the whole goal is to try to get more people talking about a particular institution, I will say the city has consistently and I personally have consistently continued to emphasize our hatred of white supremacy as a doctrine, our sensitivity and awareness that racism still exists, we have to be ever vigilant and energetic about trying to identify ways that the persistence and legacies of racism are still with us.

There's a lot of work to be done at the city level about that. We need to work together on that, whether it's in housing, or an education, or the economy or our healthcare system or our criminal justice system. I will continue to do that and encourage that work with Black Lives Matter and many other organizations that are helping move us forward.

You know that as a public official, I am not allowed to punish someone, as a government, we can't punish people for what they believe. And that's an important concept. But I also don't have to promote anything or talk about any people who are trying to promote a product related to a hateful ideology. And I'm not going to do that.

Hren: I did see the city is launching a new project to identify active lead in water services lines. Is this an EPA mandate? And how does this work?

Hamilton: I actually went out and piloted the effort, I learned how to do it a little bit last week. So we're actually jumping ahead of what will eventually be an EPA national mandate. So these are the lines that go from the main water system into your meter and then from the meter to your house or to your building, to identify where any of those service lines are still lead, because we want to replace them eventually.

Now replacing them is pretty expensive, it's pretty big quarter, we do think there will be very substantial federal money to help pay for that through the infrastructure bill. So what we're doing is kind of jumpstarting the mandate. It actually involves digging down, two or three feet, a couple different holes in a yard or next to a building to visually inspect and chemically test the lines.

Just because you have a service line that is lead does not mean that lead gets into the water, we actually work very hard to create a an alkaline a pH status of the water that encourages and causes scaling inside the pipe that then creates a scale to protect from the lead surface. So that's typically pretty effective. Second, if anybody's concerned about that, we offer free lead testing for the water in your house.

Creamery alley outline
Creamery alley outline

Hren: Johnson Creamery smokestack and the development is supposed to go before city council Wednesday night, we know the stack has to come down, waiting on AT&T to take down the cell phone items. But now there's a public alley that's unclear if it's been vacated. If not, the developer said that they would just sell the property. Councilmember Piedmont-Smith said this is why Bloomington is seen as unfriendly to businesses.

Hamilton: This is a major Chicago developer who wants to build some high end apartments downtown in Bloomington right next to City Hall. By the B-Line and they've bought the Johnson Creamery and the smokestack to put that in. And we welcome that. They are asking to vacate public property, vacate a public alley to be able to use that privately to do this. And I think very appropriately, the city, our planning department and the city council, I hope we're saying, well, if you want public property to put this private development, what are you giving to the public?

I think there's some very good and legitimate back and forth about what if you're asking for public property. I think there's some consideration of public art, maybe some commemoration of the historic smokestack. But I think it's very appropriate to ask a private developer like that to make a contribution.

Image of Bloomington City Council President Susan Sandberg (left) and Executive Director of IU's Center for Rural Engagement Kerry Thomson (right).
Bloomington City Council President Susan Sandberg (left) and Executive Director of IU's Center for Rural Engagement Kerry Thomson (right).

Hren: Last week two local women are taking the first steps to run for mayor; Susan Sandberg and Kerry Thomson.Your response and thoughts about that.

Hamilton: It's not our election season yet. I think having people make cases for where they think is a good thing. I've certainly done that myself a few times. And, and welcome that. I will say, look, I'm energized and excited about what we're doing here. I'm very proud of the progress we're making in Bloomington, I'm very proud of where the city is, I'm excited about what we have ahead of us.

But let's focus on doing our work right now and getting through the upcoming elections, and then it'll be time to turn to municipal elections.

Hren: Sources told us in the newsroom that you've been having some campaign fundraisers quietly. So would that indicate that you're running again or maybe for a different office?

Hamilton: One of the one of the things that candidates or mayors do is political fundraising. And I've done that every year and I'm continuing to do it this year. That helps me support local candidates. It's helped me support local organizations that work on behalf of the party and we have a big picnic every fall for all the Democrats. I'll be doing that again in September. I do that, but I'm gonna wait to talk about next year till the end of this year.

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