Unknown Speaker
It's the fourth Wednesday of the month and this is when we turn the show from ask the mayor to ask your municipal consultant with Nashville. Nashville his very own DAX Norton. Hello and welcome.
Unknown Speaker
Good to be here, Joe.
Unknown Speaker
Let's just start with how we've been doing this month by month get a kind of a quick Coronavirus update, I did hear the music center reopened as a drive up as a drive up COVID-19 testing clinic. Since the last time we talked, I'm giving the update on that or anything else right now going on in Nashville.
Unknown Speaker
Not really necessarily COVID related, I think things are going fairly well. In that respect. townhall still remains closed to the public meetings are still on zoom, that will likely be over here from Council President Gore till the end of the year. if things change, we will certainly let the public know and post that on all available social media and website spots. So But no, I know that cases have continued to rise in the county as testing has gone up. And so still being vigilant. I know I wear my mask whenever I'm outside there. And I think I see a fair amount of people doing the same thing. I don't think there's been any major issues.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I was gonna ask about that people wearing masks down there. And I have there been many complaints. And of course, Nashville is a big tourist hotspot and will be even more so as this fall approaches.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, the busy seasons coming into town and the county are ready for it. And Matter of fact, they're eager, eager for it. And does seem I don't think there's been a tremendous number of complaints with with visitors. Obviously, there'll be some that don't want to adhere to any mandates, but for the most part seems to be going fairly well.
Unknown Speaker
I did hear some more money to Indiana rural towns offered a couple weeks ago Nashville got some more, do you know or can help explain how some of this money, you know, gets funneled down from the federal cares act to the to Indiana to a town like Nashville, then how does it get? How's that trickle down to where it's needed the most.
Unknown Speaker
So the town received a grant from CDBG, which is the Austin Community of Rural Affairs. That awesome committee in Rural Affairs, as I believe this is how this works. They're getting guidance by the federal government, they could change the way they distribute CDBG dollars this year. And a certain amount of that money went to a COVID-19 fund, if you will, to produce these grants that they produce out of Accra, the town received the $250,000 to start a business grant program and I believe that we already have 13 very good applications for that money. It's up to $10,000. I do not know what each what asked what each ask is for 13 is pretty good in a short amount of time. I know I think that committee is meeting either met today or it meets tomorrow. discuss those applications for that grand but obviously there's a need and people are asking, there's more money. If the 13 gets funded, and they get funded at total 10,000. That means there's still $120,000 remaining. So the county also still has some money in their fund that's being distributed or administered through the Community Foundation. And they've done a great job in distributing that as well. So that's been a I think it's been a very good program, the federal funds through CDBG have been rerouted to do these business grants. Great, great, great way to spend those dollars.
Unknown Speaker
Now as the pandemic continues, we see schools adjusting sporting events, adjusting universities, cities and so on. So as we head into October, Nashville, Brown County will have to adjust as but usually millions had into the area's tourist, our officials, talking merchants, you know, restaurants meeting now to talk about how to safely host people during the fall season.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I think that's happened long ago, Joe, everybody was in great leadership. You know, Geno's in the CVB and Greg at the chamber and President Gore and the other four council members and I'm Madison Miller at the Community Foundation, Susan Armstrong am am I missing people? You know, Commissioner bill and I'm going to miss people and make people angry if I keep missing them. I think the leadership has been prepared. Since March, really I mean, when you know, March, April, you have to be ready for October. If your national and Broward County and all those things have been put into place and they're ready. If you have an opportunity to visit anybody's listening visit just do so safely distance following guidelines, please visit
Unknown Speaker
I assume we might see some of the things we see if we're at you know, a grocery store where you there are markings on the floor and things like that or other other things that That are a big shift for merchants.
Unknown Speaker
Now, I think other than the fact that, you know, naturally, you have small spaces, very, very small shops, which is what makes it unique. And so it's hard to have, you know, if we're really going to social distance correctly, it's difficult at times to have more than, you know, say, two couples or two families in the shop, because you just can't, there's just not enough room. So that's probably the biggest adjustment is, is specially when there's a whole bunch more people in town for the colors and for the fall. We haven't seen that yet. And so I'm sure it'll be a work in progress as the shop owners and all the other officials that are helping to keep them safe. And even the flow of money through tourism into the county in the town. It'll be I'm sure it'll be a work in progress. But it seems that we're prepared to do what we need to do to make it safe.
Unknown Speaker
From what I take it from, from you in many places are open. I mean, Nashville is open shops haven't closed up and remain closed right?
Unknown Speaker
Now, as a matter of fact, you have you know, you have new shops, Nashville house opened through all this and what America, you know, most of us know the Nashville house or what a great story to have it reopened and it's beautiful. Like I said, I don't want to leave any other businesses out. That was the one that was the big one that comes to mind. But everybody assumes that everyone else is open for business. I know I've been doing a number of shops, haven't seen a lot of both signs.
Unknown Speaker
Mm hmm. And we talk a lot about tourism, of course, big part of the economy, but housing there is, is short, and we talked about infrastructure. Is this also a time for Nashville to showcase itself and for people to say, Hey, this is a place you can live to? And if so how does that happen this fall?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, it's I think that's one reason, you know, one element of tourism is to show yourself off and to you know, announce yourself and your amenities to other residents. You are right, though, you're kind of selling very minimal amount of product. This point, there's not a lot of housing product that people do choose to move to the county, there's not a lot of housing product for them to live in. And so a big part of what officials have been talking about, especially on the council, the town council side, is that comprehensive plan? It's 21 years old. And you know, as we move into times where people are talking about building multifamily, very nice multifamily complexes, such as the one up on Orchard Hill, as we start talking about that, we're going to probably need to update that comprehensive plan and have the public LD LD elected officials and leaders. Okay, what do you want this to look like now? as we as we move into the next 30 years? What What does the new consumer who's going to take over and keep Nashville Rock County economically viable in the 2050? Point 60 what might they want? And how do we give them what they want, while at the same time? maintaining the storable social environmental integrity of what is there why people live there now? That'll be a discussion that's coming I talked about in the last town council meeting and I think most count council members see that as a big priority and talk about strategic planning, especially from the comprehensive plan side, bicycle pedestrian master plans, thoroughfare plans, Park master plans, those are all going to be in the works for 2021
Unknown Speaker
something that's been in the news, of course in the West is all about the fires. And we know here it's been really dry. I don't know in the last month how the barely have gotten any rain. This is it has to be concerned for Brown County as well. Right.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, concern for Brown County and even when it's not dry, I'm glad you brought fire up. There was a business fire on Main Street on Van Buren, well known business caught fire last week. And as the Nashville volunteer fire department chief stated, probably dodged a bullet that whole lot not catching on fire because there's not enough resources at this point. As you know, to really find a major fire, especially if it's in Nashville. Luckily, there were some people present. from out of town. a firefighter from out of town stepped in health, but that fire up but then our firefighters came to and our police department they the public safety did a marvelous job. fantastic job. But the question came up and this came up actually last night September October during strategic direction meetings, was it is it time to have a paid Fire Department. There isn't one in the county, it's all fire district. They're all volunteer fire departments, the town does provide some funding to the National Volunteer Fire Department through the CCB fund and through the general fund, general fund $20,000. I think thing the CCD fund is about $30,000 a year, that fund has accumulated about $100,000, in the fire department usually safe to spend on my equipment, because we all know fire apparatus is expensive. So, you know, the major issue is, is funding for full time Fire Department. And that funding can just come from the current levy. Levy is Max, especially in the town, there will be there would have to be a tax increase for that to happen. So I would urge that we, you know, as we start this conversation, the public become involved in a feasibility analysis. And that feasibility analysis is basically a financial document that says, This is how much money you would need to fund a fire department that provides the taxpayers with the services they expect, safely. And this is the amount of taxes you would have to raise and this is what would have to happen to the rate creating the fire territory to do this. That's step number one. And, you know, at that point, it's up to the taxpaying public. What they so choose the one to do with with that tax, potential increase, if you will, I know the town Council's done a very good job of their current budget. It's a very small budget $750,000 for the entire year. If you think about that, no, that's salt sands.
Unknown Speaker
personnel to help pay the bills and
Unknown Speaker
pave the streets and keep the water sewer going. So fire is going should be a major priority discussion as we move forward from this point on from a strategic perspective. And that first step is to know just exactly how much that's going to cost. I know studies have been done in the past, the fire territory discussion has been stopped in the past, things have gone all the way even to the court system in Broward County and Nashville about this. And it's just time to collectively get everybody together and have a very good conversation as Susan Armstrong and Betsy stone. And I had a brief. We had a brief conversation last week, the day before, actually, I think it was the morning of that fire, talking about this very thing. And Susan Armstrong is an asset to brown counties, you know, dmac, she had some very good ideas on how to start the process with some part timers. And then we have to move into we're gonna have full time be able to understand what those costs are and how he raised that money.
Unknown Speaker
You know, you might have to help me here, I can't remember all the details. But this brings back the memory of was it for bare feet, a big sock factory and this was on boy, this could have been a decade ago, though, it's been a while. But you know, huge warehouse, huge factory that burnt down in Brown County. And part of the issue of why they moved out of Brown County was because of the lack of fire fighting, the whole place burnt down, they just wasn't the water, the infrastructure, the fire department there to be able to handle something like that. So this goes on a much larger scale, doesn't it?
Unknown Speaker
It does. It's not the volunteer fire. It's not the firefighters, let's make that clear. It's all about resources, fighting fires, and keeping you safe. From a fire department perspective is can become the most expensive service that a municipality provides. You know, a truck is a million bucks, you got to put four people on that truck to keep the OSHA standards, that's, you know, four, four times whatever salary you have, and just an expensive endeavor. And for a small county, like Brown County with limited population, you just don't have a big enough base of population tax base to be able to afford it. And then this comes down to a lack of growth. And the way that Indiana has set this system up is you're either growing community and when you're growing community, you can afford these things or you're kind of hearing if you're in the middle, you're just going to struggle mightily to come up with answers to how to fund these projects and fund the services and that's kind of where Brown County Nashville find themselves.
Unknown Speaker
We did have before we go we did have one question this kind of changing topics, from john emails in this goes kind of back to the whole social justice. issues that we've talked about earlier this year. And something we talked about here too with you. His question is, is the visitors and convention bureau willing to ban displays of the Confederate flag at its events that its sponsors, including the upcoming bean blossom Blues Festival? I don't know if that's something that you can speak on. But it's an interesting, interesting question.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I can't speak on it. I would have to be their board of directors and their executive director is a very good question. And, you know, does does even a town council get involved in that? I know. I don't know. It's a very good question. I think it's an excellent question. I will tell you the town council has had on their agenda, the creation of the Human Relations Commission for about three months now. I wrote a I wrote a draft ordinance for them to create that commission. And that's very near and dear to my heart. I've been involved in the creation to other human relations conditions, I think they work very well, that probably needs to be up on the list of priority for as we end this year, and go into 2021 as well. Very good. Very good question.
Unknown Speaker
Where is the process of that commission?
Unknown Speaker
I really hasn't moved forward, yet. There was going to be a collaborative effort between the county was looking at their version of an ordinance. And I know that Commissioner Biddle and Ken town council, President Gore, I think they had communicated about, you know, joint effort, which I think is a good idea. Why have to separate? It was going to be driven, I think, by Citizens Committee, which is also a smart idea. I don't think that has really gotten off the ground yet. hard to do, and you're on zoom and paying attention to a pandemic and 2020 is a little bit crazy. I'll certainly keep it top of mind for the council to be considering. I think it's a very important discussion.
Unknown Speaker
Do you know is the would have been Boston Blues Festival? Is that still is that something in the fall?
Unknown Speaker
I have familiar with that.
Unknown Speaker
I haven't heard about the Blues Festival. Okay. Yeah. I'm not saying I haven't heard I haven't heard. That is their status in 2020.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I know, we're almost out of time. Is there anything else coming up on town council, things that we should know about? before we head out for today?
Unknown Speaker
No, other than the budget, you know, budgets had their public hearing in September, very few people ever, ever show up ever ask questions ever. You know, and but a lot of people like to get on social media and complain about how the council spends that money. not really knowing how short it is and what they're really spending on. I would urge people to there's a link, I believe to the budget, they can see it. October is the budget adoption time. Please go look at that. So that's going to be the majority of the discussion in October, but I think you'll start to hear some of the strategic items such as comp plan and fire territory, start to creep into the conversation more and more at council meetings.
Unknown Speaker
All right. That's all the time we have for today. Again, thanks again. And we'll hope to see you again in in October. Thank you. All right. Thank you.
It's the fourth Wednesday of the month and this is when we turn the show from ask the mayor to ask your municipal consultant with Nashville. Nashville his very own DAX Norton. Hello and welcome.
Unknown Speaker
Good to be here, Joe.
Unknown Speaker
Let's just start with how we've been doing this month by month get a kind of a quick Coronavirus update, I did hear the music center reopened as a drive up as a drive up COVID-19 testing clinic. Since the last time we talked, I'm giving the update on that or anything else right now going on in Nashville.
Unknown Speaker
Not really necessarily COVID related, I think things are going fairly well. In that respect. townhall still remains closed to the public meetings are still on zoom, that will likely be over here from Council President Gore till the end of the year. if things change, we will certainly let the public know and post that on all available social media and website spots. So But no, I know that cases have continued to rise in the county as testing has gone up. And so still being vigilant. I know I wear my mask whenever I'm outside there. And I think I see a fair amount of people doing the same thing. I don't think there's been any major issues.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I was gonna ask about that people wearing masks down there. And I have there been many complaints. And of course, Nashville is a big tourist hotspot and will be even more so as this fall approaches.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, the busy seasons coming into town and the county are ready for it. And Matter of fact, they're eager, eager for it. And does seem I don't think there's been a tremendous number of complaints with with visitors. Obviously, there'll be some that don't want to adhere to any mandates, but for the most part seems to be going fairly well.
Unknown Speaker
I did hear some more money to Indiana rural towns offered a couple weeks ago Nashville got some more, do you know or can help explain how some of this money, you know, gets funneled down from the federal cares act to the to Indiana to a town like Nashville, then how does it get? How's that trickle down to where it's needed the most.
Unknown Speaker
So the town received a grant from CDBG, which is the Austin Community of Rural Affairs. That awesome committee in Rural Affairs, as I believe this is how this works. They're getting guidance by the federal government, they could change the way they distribute CDBG dollars this year. And a certain amount of that money went to a COVID-19 fund, if you will, to produce these grants that they produce out of Accra, the town received the $250,000 to start a business grant program and I believe that we already have 13 very good applications for that money. It's up to $10,000. I do not know what each what asked what each ask is for 13 is pretty good in a short amount of time. I know I think that committee is meeting either met today or it meets tomorrow. discuss those applications for that grand but obviously there's a need and people are asking, there's more money. If the 13 gets funded, and they get funded at total 10,000. That means there's still $120,000 remaining. So the county also still has some money in their fund that's being distributed or administered through the Community Foundation. And they've done a great job in distributing that as well. So that's been a I think it's been a very good program, the federal funds through CDBG have been rerouted to do these business grants. Great, great, great way to spend those dollars.
Unknown Speaker
Now as the pandemic continues, we see schools adjusting sporting events, adjusting universities, cities and so on. So as we head into October, Nashville, Brown County will have to adjust as but usually millions had into the area's tourist, our officials, talking merchants, you know, restaurants meeting now to talk about how to safely host people during the fall season.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I think that's happened long ago, Joe, everybody was in great leadership. You know, Geno's in the CVB and Greg at the chamber and President Gore and the other four council members and I'm Madison Miller at the Community Foundation, Susan Armstrong am am I missing people? You know, Commissioner bill and I'm going to miss people and make people angry if I keep missing them. I think the leadership has been prepared. Since March, really I mean, when you know, March, April, you have to be ready for October. If your national and Broward County and all those things have been put into place and they're ready. If you have an opportunity to visit anybody's listening visit just do so safely distance following guidelines, please visit
Unknown Speaker
I assume we might see some of the things we see if we're at you know, a grocery store where you there are markings on the floor and things like that or other other things that That are a big shift for merchants.
Unknown Speaker
Now, I think other than the fact that, you know, naturally, you have small spaces, very, very small shops, which is what makes it unique. And so it's hard to have, you know, if we're really going to social distance correctly, it's difficult at times to have more than, you know, say, two couples or two families in the shop, because you just can't, there's just not enough room. So that's probably the biggest adjustment is, is specially when there's a whole bunch more people in town for the colors and for the fall. We haven't seen that yet. And so I'm sure it'll be a work in progress as the shop owners and all the other officials that are helping to keep them safe. And even the flow of money through tourism into the county in the town. It'll be I'm sure it'll be a work in progress. But it seems that we're prepared to do what we need to do to make it safe.
Unknown Speaker
From what I take it from, from you in many places are open. I mean, Nashville is open shops haven't closed up and remain closed right?
Unknown Speaker
Now, as a matter of fact, you have you know, you have new shops, Nashville house opened through all this and what America, you know, most of us know the Nashville house or what a great story to have it reopened and it's beautiful. Like I said, I don't want to leave any other businesses out. That was the one that was the big one that comes to mind. But everybody assumes that everyone else is open for business. I know I've been doing a number of shops, haven't seen a lot of both signs.
Unknown Speaker
Mm hmm. And we talk a lot about tourism, of course, big part of the economy, but housing there is, is short, and we talked about infrastructure. Is this also a time for Nashville to showcase itself and for people to say, Hey, this is a place you can live to? And if so how does that happen this fall?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, it's I think that's one reason, you know, one element of tourism is to show yourself off and to you know, announce yourself and your amenities to other residents. You are right, though, you're kind of selling very minimal amount of product. This point, there's not a lot of housing product that people do choose to move to the county, there's not a lot of housing product for them to live in. And so a big part of what officials have been talking about, especially on the council, the town council side, is that comprehensive plan? It's 21 years old. And you know, as we move into times where people are talking about building multifamily, very nice multifamily complexes, such as the one up on Orchard Hill, as we start talking about that, we're going to probably need to update that comprehensive plan and have the public LD LD elected officials and leaders. Okay, what do you want this to look like now? as we as we move into the next 30 years? What What does the new consumer who's going to take over and keep Nashville Rock County economically viable in the 2050? Point 60 what might they want? And how do we give them what they want, while at the same time? maintaining the storable social environmental integrity of what is there why people live there now? That'll be a discussion that's coming I talked about in the last town council meeting and I think most count council members see that as a big priority and talk about strategic planning, especially from the comprehensive plan side, bicycle pedestrian master plans, thoroughfare plans, Park master plans, those are all going to be in the works for 2021
Unknown Speaker
something that's been in the news, of course in the West is all about the fires. And we know here it's been really dry. I don't know in the last month how the barely have gotten any rain. This is it has to be concerned for Brown County as well. Right.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, concern for Brown County and even when it's not dry, I'm glad you brought fire up. There was a business fire on Main Street on Van Buren, well known business caught fire last week. And as the Nashville volunteer fire department chief stated, probably dodged a bullet that whole lot not catching on fire because there's not enough resources at this point. As you know, to really find a major fire, especially if it's in Nashville. Luckily, there were some people present. from out of town. a firefighter from out of town stepped in health, but that fire up but then our firefighters came to and our police department they the public safety did a marvelous job. fantastic job. But the question came up and this came up actually last night September October during strategic direction meetings, was it is it time to have a paid Fire Department. There isn't one in the county, it's all fire district. They're all volunteer fire departments, the town does provide some funding to the National Volunteer Fire Department through the CCB fund and through the general fund, general fund $20,000. I think thing the CCD fund is about $30,000 a year, that fund has accumulated about $100,000, in the fire department usually safe to spend on my equipment, because we all know fire apparatus is expensive. So, you know, the major issue is, is funding for full time Fire Department. And that funding can just come from the current levy. Levy is Max, especially in the town, there will be there would have to be a tax increase for that to happen. So I would urge that we, you know, as we start this conversation, the public become involved in a feasibility analysis. And that feasibility analysis is basically a financial document that says, This is how much money you would need to fund a fire department that provides the taxpayers with the services they expect, safely. And this is the amount of taxes you would have to raise and this is what would have to happen to the rate creating the fire territory to do this. That's step number one. And, you know, at that point, it's up to the taxpaying public. What they so choose the one to do with with that tax, potential increase, if you will, I know the town Council's done a very good job of their current budget. It's a very small budget $750,000 for the entire year. If you think about that, no, that's salt sands.
Unknown Speaker
personnel to help pay the bills and
Unknown Speaker
pave the streets and keep the water sewer going. So fire is going should be a major priority discussion as we move forward from this point on from a strategic perspective. And that first step is to know just exactly how much that's going to cost. I know studies have been done in the past, the fire territory discussion has been stopped in the past, things have gone all the way even to the court system in Broward County and Nashville about this. And it's just time to collectively get everybody together and have a very good conversation as Susan Armstrong and Betsy stone. And I had a brief. We had a brief conversation last week, the day before, actually, I think it was the morning of that fire, talking about this very thing. And Susan Armstrong is an asset to brown counties, you know, dmac, she had some very good ideas on how to start the process with some part timers. And then we have to move into we're gonna have full time be able to understand what those costs are and how he raised that money.
Unknown Speaker
You know, you might have to help me here, I can't remember all the details. But this brings back the memory of was it for bare feet, a big sock factory and this was on boy, this could have been a decade ago, though, it's been a while. But you know, huge warehouse, huge factory that burnt down in Brown County. And part of the issue of why they moved out of Brown County was because of the lack of fire fighting, the whole place burnt down, they just wasn't the water, the infrastructure, the fire department there to be able to handle something like that. So this goes on a much larger scale, doesn't it?
Unknown Speaker
It does. It's not the volunteer fire. It's not the firefighters, let's make that clear. It's all about resources, fighting fires, and keeping you safe. From a fire department perspective is can become the most expensive service that a municipality provides. You know, a truck is a million bucks, you got to put four people on that truck to keep the OSHA standards, that's, you know, four, four times whatever salary you have, and just an expensive endeavor. And for a small county, like Brown County with limited population, you just don't have a big enough base of population tax base to be able to afford it. And then this comes down to a lack of growth. And the way that Indiana has set this system up is you're either growing community and when you're growing community, you can afford these things or you're kind of hearing if you're in the middle, you're just going to struggle mightily to come up with answers to how to fund these projects and fund the services and that's kind of where Brown County Nashville find themselves.
Unknown Speaker
We did have before we go we did have one question this kind of changing topics, from john emails in this goes kind of back to the whole social justice. issues that we've talked about earlier this year. And something we talked about here too with you. His question is, is the visitors and convention bureau willing to ban displays of the Confederate flag at its events that its sponsors, including the upcoming bean blossom Blues Festival? I don't know if that's something that you can speak on. But it's an interesting, interesting question.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I can't speak on it. I would have to be their board of directors and their executive director is a very good question. And, you know, does does even a town council get involved in that? I know. I don't know. It's a very good question. I think it's an excellent question. I will tell you the town council has had on their agenda, the creation of the Human Relations Commission for about three months now. I wrote a I wrote a draft ordinance for them to create that commission. And that's very near and dear to my heart. I've been involved in the creation to other human relations conditions, I think they work very well, that probably needs to be up on the list of priority for as we end this year, and go into 2021 as well. Very good. Very good question.
Unknown Speaker
Where is the process of that commission?
Unknown Speaker
I really hasn't moved forward, yet. There was going to be a collaborative effort between the county was looking at their version of an ordinance. And I know that Commissioner Biddle and Ken town council, President Gore, I think they had communicated about, you know, joint effort, which I think is a good idea. Why have to separate? It was going to be driven, I think, by Citizens Committee, which is also a smart idea. I don't think that has really gotten off the ground yet. hard to do, and you're on zoom and paying attention to a pandemic and 2020 is a little bit crazy. I'll certainly keep it top of mind for the council to be considering. I think it's a very important discussion.
Unknown Speaker
Do you know is the would have been Boston Blues Festival? Is that still is that something in the fall?
Unknown Speaker
I have familiar with that.
Unknown Speaker
I haven't heard about the Blues Festival. Okay. Yeah. I'm not saying I haven't heard I haven't heard. That is their status in 2020.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker
I know, we're almost out of time. Is there anything else coming up on town council, things that we should know about? before we head out for today?
Unknown Speaker
No, other than the budget, you know, budgets had their public hearing in September, very few people ever, ever show up ever ask questions ever. You know, and but a lot of people like to get on social media and complain about how the council spends that money. not really knowing how short it is and what they're really spending on. I would urge people to there's a link, I believe to the budget, they can see it. October is the budget adoption time. Please go look at that. So that's going to be the majority of the discussion in October, but I think you'll start to hear some of the strategic items such as comp plan and fire territory, start to creep into the conversation more and more at council meetings.
Unknown Speaker
All right. That's all the time we have for today. Again, thanks again. And we'll hope to see you again in in October. Thank you. All right. Thank you.
