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Legislative Committee Debates New Casino Rules

(Photo: Horseshoe Casino)

A legislative study committee today debated two key issues relating to casinos todaywhether to allow land-based casinos and whether to allow live table games at racetracks.

On the land versus water debate, some of Indiana's riverboats say permitting land-based casinos allows them to build better facilities and strengthens their ability to compete with the growing number of casinos in other states.

Pete Liguori, the CEO of Majestic Star Casinos in northwest Indiana, says allowing riverboats to move on land has positive benefits for the community.

"As we contemplate a move to land-based, this actually has a net positive effect for the local communities because it's likely to increase the real estate tax rolls," he says.

Representatives from several riverboats told lawmakers they only plan to move onto land adjacent to the boats.

Troy Stremming, the Vice President of Pinnacle Entertainment, which operates two Indiana casinos, says he's fine with allowing riverboats to move on land but only within their existing footprint. That is, on property they already own.

"However, I do believe if they are going to be allowed to do that, I think we should explore other opportunities that other licensees might be able to take advantage of," he says.

Stremming says some riverboats don't have the money to build an entirely new casino, but would like to be allowed to move, for instance, a poker room or slot machines to an empty restaurant or banquet hall on their property. That would open up what casino owners say is much-needed space on the boats.

The fight over allowing live table games at Indiana's racetrack casinos also took another step forward during Wednesday's meeting.

Centaur Gaming President Jim Brown, whose company operates both Indiana racinos in Anderson and Shelbyville, says the Indiana law allowing electronic table games at racinos but not live dealers is "bizarre."

Brown says customers have a clear preference for live dealers, which would boost revenue for the facilities and create more than 600 jobs.

"After dealers, in table games you have floor supervisors and pit managers. Because of the additional business levels, you need more restaurant workers, environmental service workers," Brown says.

Brown acknowledges other Indiana casinos would lose revenues as a result of the racinos' gain. He estimates a shift of about $25 million. But he says the state comes out ahead overall.

Scott Saunders, the general manager of the Hollywood Casino in Lawrenceburg, argues against that, saying his area would take a direct hit from adding live dealers to the racinos.

"We get a little north of 20 percent of our table games revenue from the Indianapolis metro market," Saunders says. "To lose a material amount of that would be very difficult for us to handle."

Saunders says the casino could be forced to shed 50 to 75 jobs.

But lawmakers criticized Saunders testimony, noting that Hollywood Casino's parent company pushed for an Ohio gaming referendum that created significant competition for the Lawrenceburg facility.

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