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John Darnielle is the lyricist, guitarist, and only constant member of prolific indie rock act the Mountain Goats. The New Yorker referred to him as "America’s best non-hip-hop lyricist”. His 16th, and most recent album is 2008’s "Heretic Pride". WFIU’s Josephine McRobbie caught up with Darnielle to chat about his music, recent novel, and how he ended up on a hip-hop album.