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House Approves Gun On School Property Legislation

The House Monday approved legislation that allows guns on school property if it is locked in a car.

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Only adults with gun permits can have firearms stored in their cars on school property.

The House Monday approved legislation allowing Hoosier gun owners to keep a gun in a locked car on school property.

The legislative language authored by Rep. Jim Lucas, R-Seymour, would allow licensed gun owners to keep a gun locked in their car on school property.  Students would only be allowed to store guns in a locked car if they’re a member of a shooting team and have permission from the school principal.

Rep. Vernon Smith, D-Gary, says he thinks a person has a better chance to cool off if they would have to go home to retrieve a gun.

“If I just go to my car and get my gun out of my trunk or out of my lockbox or out of my glove compartment which has been locked, then I’m probably not going to be as rational as I could possibly be if I had a chance to cool off,” Smith said.

But Lucas says current law puts law-abiding citizens in situations where they could unintentionally commit felonies.  And he notes more and more Hoosiers are getting gun licenses.

“These are common, everyday, peaceful, sensible people that just want to be able to defend themselves,” Lucas said. “This bill gives them a common sense solution of how to store their firearms on school property.”

The bill is likely headed for conference committee for the House and Senate to work out details.

Brandon Smith

Brandon Smith has previously worked as a reporter and anchor for KBIA Radio in Columbia, MO, and at WSPY Radio in Plano, IL as a show host, reporter, producer and anchor. Brandon graduated from the University of Missouri-Columbia with a Bachelor of Journalism in 2010, with minors in political science and history. He was born and raised in Chicago.

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  • Jim Lucas

    Vehicles kill app. 4 times as many people as firearms each year, yet nobody thinks twice about cars on school property.

    Vehicles are the number one cause of death for teenagers, yet nobody thinks twice about kids in cars on school property.

    Given the above fact, I find it ironic that I currently can’t lock my firearm inside
    a deadly weapon (car) on school property.

    Who is more dangerous, a person lawfully carrying/storing their firearm or somebody texting/talking on their cell phone while driving a 2 ton vehicle down the road at 20-70 miles per hour?

    Given the above facts, why aren’t we outlawing cars? (insert sarcasm)

    App. 80% of those killed with firearms are either gang or drug related.

    Under current Indiana law, we’re charging peaceful, lawful carrying Hoosiers that may innocently (no intention of harm) leave their firearm in their vehicle with the
    same crime, D felony, as we would a person that that commits involuntary
    manslaughter or possession of child pornography.

    There has been an 83% increase in the applications for LTCH in Indiana in the past year.

  • Ken Pimple

    There are some relevant differences between automobiles and guns. For example, guns are designed to kill but automobiles are designed to provide transportation. Guns can be carried into school buildings; cars cannot.

    Rep. Lucas, your line of reasoning is actually a line nonsense.

    Guns should be regulated as well as automobiles are – every gun registered, every gun user licensed after training and shown to be capable.

    If guns were adequately regulated and illegal guns confiscated and destroyed, gangsters and drug dealers would not have guns.

  • HoosierMommy

    We’re charging peaceful law-abiding citizens with a felony – really? Is that a real problem or a theoretical problem that exists only in the fevered imagination of gun nuts? Some statistics would be nice. And you can’t really know whether someone is bringing a gun to school with ill intent until they use it. Why do we want to make it easier for the Adam Lanzas of the world to harm our children?

  • Jim Lucas

    HoosierMommy, to have a respectable conversation and to have any integrity whatsoever, state your name. Any coward can hide behind an anonymous keyboard name and throw mis-information out there. It is currently a felony to lock a lawfully carried firearm in your vehicle on school property. For those of us that respect and want to obey the law, this is an unacceptable infringement on our Natural Right to self-defense. You are correct that we wouldn’t know who has a gun and who doesn’t have one in a school, or anywhere, but that doesn’t matter. It is the intent of the person that matters. Millions of peaceful people carry firearms everyday and harm no one. It’s called personal responsibility and making innocent people helpless will not make bad people harmless. I want people to have their gun rights recognized, as outlined in both our federal AND state Constitutions, so we can protect ourselves from the Lanza’s of the world, among other things. Sandy Hook was a Gun Free Zone, was locked down, had a security system and everyone inside was made defenseless because of our current gun laws. Lanza broke dozens of laws that day and the first law he broke was when he stole his mother’s legally owned firearms and shot her in the head multiple times. Do you think more laws would have stopped someone like that? When Lanza, a person that had ZERO regard for laws, started murdering innocent, defenseless people, the first people that were called to come save them were people with guns.

  • Jim Lucas

    Mr. Pimple, with all due respect, prescription drugs are some of the most regulated items in America, how’s that working out for us regarding our drug laws being effective against abuse? Also, how are “drug dealers” getting drugs if they’re illegal? Do you honestly think registering our guns will stop bad people from getting them? Plus, history has shown what happens to populations when they register their firearms. If this makes sense, why do we spend billions arming foreign citizens to arm them?

  • Ken Pimple

    It’s disheartening and incongruous for a legislator such as yourself to have so little regard for laws.

  • HoosierMommy

    What misinformation am I throwing out there?

    And I notice that you did not answer my question: have innocent law-abiding citizens been arrested and charged with a felony for locking a lawfully carried firearm in their cars? If so, how many, and over what period of time? Or, as I suspect, is this another “solution” in search of a problem?

  • Jim Lucas

    Mr. Pimple, with all due respect, we’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I do have respect for the law. However, this was a bad law that infringed upon the Constitutional right of the individual and that is why I sought to change it. It is disheartening and incongruous for an individual such as yourself to have so little regard for the Constitution.

  • Jim Lucas

    I know of two particular instances. The simple fact that innocent people could be charged with a life-ruining felony for exercising their Constitutional right is enough for me to change such a heinous law.
    I feel like I’m arguing with a 7th grader ……

  • Jim Lucas

    I know of two particular instances. The simple fact that innocent people could be charged with a life-ruining felony for exercising their Constitutional right is enough for me to change such a heinous law.

  • HoosierMommy

    You know, I asked for facts which would support your claims, which I would think you ought to expect. I do not see why that should provoke an ad hominen attack.

    In any event, your NRA talking points will not protect children or teachers when one of your peaceful law-abiding citizens becomes temporarily deranged by a custody battle, for example, and shoots up his child’s school.

    You needn’t bother to reply.

  • Ken Pimple

    Rep. Lucas, in the short time I’ve known about you, every time you mention a law you describe with great zeal how ineffective or dangerous it is. You write about prescription drugs and cars as if they should be banned, but you seem to think there should be no restrictions on carrying firearms. I would be interested in knowing your goals as a legislator aside from protecting gun rights.

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